Star Wars Episode 7 News

Monday, November 4, 2013

Update! Star Wars: Episode 7 to Look Grittier? Chiwetel Ejiofor Casting Rumor.

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Director J. J. Abrams spoke with The Times Magazine and revealed that Episode 7 could return to the darker and grittier look of the Original Trilogy...


(11/02/2013)
Remember that fan video?




Well in the interview Abrams actually praised these set of rules, which is really great news.

This include setting the films on a Western style frontier of the galaxy rather than in shiny big cities like the three most recent films, giving the films a gritty and dirtier aesthetic and recreating some of the danger and mystery of the originals.

He said:
I loved how Star Wars had that sense of a world far beyond the borders of what you can see and have been told – it's one of the things it did so brilliantly.If you watch the first movie, you don't actually know exactly what the Empire is trying to do. They're going to rule by fear – but you don't know what their end game is. The beauty of that movie was that it was an unfamiliar world, and yet you wanted to see it expand and to see where it went.
Still Abrams didn't diss the Prequel Trilogy. He needs to find the balance and not to alienate fans of the originals and the younger fans of the prequels.

He said:
A lot of kids who saw all the prequels when they were young really do identify with those movies as much as my generation identified with the originals.

Another interesting thing about this interview is that according to The Times the British actor Chiwetel Ejiofor might be considered for a role in Episode 7 after he was seen sitting in the lobby of J.J. Abrams' office.
So there you have your next Episode 7 casting rumor.

Chiwetel Ejiofor

Source: Telegraph

Update!

(11/04/2013)
Chiwetel's comment:

96 comments:

  1. No one can leak the entire interview on The Times ? :(

    (sorry for my english, I'm french)

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    1. i think you must pay to read it. here

      http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/magazine/article3906891.ece

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    2. ... that's the whole point, you have to pay to read it. He asked if anyone could leak it..

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  2. May the force be with them!

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  3. Some visuals from the PT should make it into episodes 7, 8 & 9 to tie all 9 films together. Disney will most likely use this trilogy to unite Star Wars fans of both trilogies, bringing balance to the force.

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  4. I think there is a 5th rule for making a good Star Wars movie.

    Rule 5: When we enter the movie, or story, loads and loads of stuff have already happened. We are trowed inn a world that already have a history, loads of important stuff have already happened, and we learn little by little some of that history as we move along the main storyline.
    This give the story and universe depth.

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    1. I agree to an extent, but if too much has already happened (like Mara Jade having already lived and died by the time episode 7 begins) it'd be difficult to establish an interesting plot without losing the audience. I think the first scene after the title and introduction should be Dengar's ship flying with haste towards Tatooine following a distress signal. Being a bounty hunter, you wouldn't expect Dengar to care about such things, but it he must have preconcieved notions to the matter. As he approaches the planet's surface, we notice there isn't a hint of a nearby settlement; he's landed in the heart of the Dune Sea. He exits his ship with a homing device in his hands, still persistantly tracking the signal. He begins to look like he's second guessing his choice to come to this dust bowl of a planet when he stumbles upon none other than the great pit of Carkoon and the mighty Sarlacc. He sees the beast is weak and assumes that confronting her head-on will do the job. He then forces his way into the enormous pit and ferociously battles the horrible creature until it is detained from attack. Reaching his arm deep into the monster's gaping mouth, he grabs hold of something and pulls out the Fett himself. Boba is obviously extremely weiry from facing the beginning stages of Sarlacc digestion and does not seem to show any amount of thanks to Dengar for helping him. He just wants to get off the god-forsaken planet and back to his beloved trade. From there we could transition to scenes of the new republic and where they are now; establishing the inside plot outside of the bounty hunter's current story. This, of course, is my personal opinion and I know I'd really like to see the expansion of Fett's story after the conslusion of episode six. I refuse to believe that the most badass bounty hunter in the galaxy was defeated by a recovering blind man with a shovel.

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    2. The first scene, after the scrolling words, should be an Imperial vessel (or whatever the equivalent will be in the new trilogy)

      The original trilogy all started with star destroyers

      The prequel all started with trade federation battleships

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    3. Episode 7-9 should start with the Falcon!

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  5. J.J said:
    A lot of kids who saw all the prequels when they were young really do identify with those movies as much as my generation identified with the originals."

    Im not sure I agree with that. Those of us who got to know the Star Wars saga thru the original trilogy, tok that experience right up to our adult life. I have a huge problem thinking that the prequels had the same impact on the young generation who got to know Star Wars thru ep. 1 - 3.
    But I might be mistaken.

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    1. I agree w/u but, my nephews grew up on the PT and the do love the OT but to them the PT is more faster paced and visually grand....but I grew up on the OT like u and I, like u just don't get it.

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    2. I'm from the younger generation that grew up with the prequels, and I know that all of my friends and I like them better than the originals. I actually didn't know until I read some of the comments on this website that people liked the original trilogy better, lol!

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    3. ^^^ This kid's got a lot of learning to do haha.
      I highly doubt that the prequels had as significant of an impact. When episode IV was released, the world was still in the dark as far as real special effects are concerned. Lucas pulled away the veil (so to speak) and showed the film industry that a little really goes a long way and simple camera tricks and pre-planned tactics, even with a smaller budget can make a worl-recognized masterpiece. The new trilogy simply expanded on the story. It was a merchandizing tactic with the purpose of advertising to a new demographic to widen their customer base. Little to no artistic value in that at all.

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    4. I'm from the PT generation. I loved the PT growing up, and when I saw the OT, it made me enormously confused as to why the effects and sets looked so bad comparatively. When I learned how much older they were, my mind was truly blown at the ability it took to make the OT. However, when Anonymous^ says that the PT was a merchandizing tactic, he's right. That's exactly what ANY sequel and/or prequel is. Little to no artistic value? You couldn't be more wrong. Many of the camera angles, lines, and the storyline itself are incredibly deep. Instead of saying the trilogies are against each other, why don't we look at them on a grander scale? Combining the gritty, tough, western look of the OT with the powerful, fast-paced, animated PT should produce an absolutely INCREDIBLE 7,8, and 9.

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    5. @Cedric Gegel
      I'll admit, that was an over-reaction (this is the above anon). It's arrogant to say that the prequels have no artistic value. Instead, I'll retract my above statement and say that the prequels definitly had a good amount of artistic value; the score, a lot of the acting, a majority of the script and such do present a lot of visually stimulating and inticing material. I don't believe the two trilogies should really be in a competetive lock for which is better either, but I also don't believe that a mixture of the rustic, gritty theme of the OT would go hand-in-hand with the sharp-edged, clean look of the PT. Where I'm guessing the story will pick up (based on the clues we've been given) the republic is still struggling to get back on its feet after the fall of the empire. Also, Luke is working on establishing the new Jedi order in the Massassi temples on Ossus (as instructed by master Yoda) and is training or has already trained Leia, Han and Leia's children and (depending on where they're going with the story) his own children as well. It's also obviously necessary, with the rise in fan interest of bounty hunters lately, that they include the return of Boba Fett. All of these things would call for a more rustic theme for the movie as it was in the OT. As we progress to 8 and 9 I could certainly understand a transition to a sharper look while we watch the republic rise back to power, but for episode 7, I think they'll have to amplify the more western feel, just to clearly establish where we are now in the story.

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    6. When you compare the OT to the PT, it almost feels like the prequels lost all of the magic that was held in the originals. The prequels had some horrible actoring and even worse character development (most of the best characters in those movies died in the same film that introduced them). Lucas could have expanded so much more on Jango, Maul, and other supporting characters (not including Jar Jar) which would have made the prequels much more personable in my opinion.

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    7. I was at the opening screening of Episode I and there were no kids there. It was a bunch of 20 - 30 something geeks, like myself.

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    8. I will admit that the acting was not perfect, namely Hayden Christenson. Natalie Portman was amazing and Ewan Macgregor has been awesome in every movie I've ever seen him in. I truly hope Episode 7 is more gritty and personal, like the OT, but has the effects and some of the large-scale power of the PT. Episode I was easily the worst, but really, was not a bad movie overall. The effects, for their age, were astounding. I think the best movie in the series, hands down, is Episode V. I think III hold its own against the OT, and I hope the next trilogy contains the epic battle scenes from the PT combined with the excellent filmography of the OT, and the incredible directing of JJ Abrams. I'm pumped.

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  6. Yes, actually you are mistaken.

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    1. Explain, and I will knowingly and without any problem stand corrected.

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    2. Because just like those who grew up with episodes 4-5 we had way cool Star Wars toys (actually a lot more). But more importantly we had an expansion of an already GREAT story. We had the plot twists, more improved Jedi battles. In my opinion... the biggest reason why so many of the OT fans don't like the PT is because everyone of them went into the PT films already knowing the plot, all the twists and turns were no mystery. Those who grew up with the PT were watching them as they were released and as we grew up, we watched as it all unfolded and the story lined up. And that my friend, I have kept with me into my adult life!

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    3. I love the PT because of the things JJ and you guys seem to hate: shimmering buildings of Coruscant, grand palances of Naboo, tall cities of Alderaan, etc... Making it "dark and gritty" for the sake of keeping it looking like OT and making OT fans happy is not the best reason in the world, particularly if the script is left half-baked, which according to Kathleen Kennedy, it is.

      And for the above commenter ^ who said that the PT is inferior because "everyone... already knows... the plot, all the twists and turns..." The same thing can be said about the Amazing Spider Man and, heck, every book-to-film adaption like the Hobbit. We KNOW what is going to happen. True, the PT didn't have the best acting in the world, but I found them extremely entertaining, and I grew up with them.

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    4. I would say "grittier" could just apply to the idea that it's more of an "aftermath" type period. The Empire fell, the Yuuzhan Vong invaded, a lot has happened. And then, as Abrams said, this takes place in a "grittier" part of the galaxy. So while it may satiate some fans "grittier" perception of Eps 4-6, for everybody else looking at the whole of the saga, it can still fit within a "progression" of the larger narrative.

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    5. "I love the PT because of the things JJ and you guys seem to hate: shimmering buildings of Coruscant, grand palances of Naboo, tall cities of Alderaan," I can agree with that to an extent. I think all those big cities look brilliant. The prequel trilogy is set in a time before the empire, and in places like Coruscant, where everything is urban, modern and expensive. The story is set in a time when things were organised and posh and clean etc etc etc. But the originals were set in a time with the empire, and that the rebels were going on adventures in strange worlds. So the originals had more rural planets like Hoth, Yavin 4, Dagobah, are so of course were going to be dirtier and grittier. The story mean that more of the locations needed to be further away from civilization, and I really liked that. Although annoyingly the sleek designs of the prequels were also brilliant. But then the originals also had very sleek places too, the death star and star destroyers interior for example was meant to look very modern and sleek, but the designs and technology was pretty bad because the films were in the 70's and 80's, so it didn't really look modern like it was supposed to. So personally, I hope that there's a mix, between the rural locations like Tattooine and hoth, and then also lush places like cloud city will look more how they're supposed to, as modern movies can pull that look off much better than they could have 30 years ago.

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    6. Anonumous Wrote:
      Because just like those who grew up with episodes 4-5 we had way cool Star Wars toys (actually a lot more). But more importantly we had an expansion of an already GREAT story. We had the plot twists, more improved Jedi battles. In my opinion... the biggest reason why so many of the OT fans don't like the PT is because everyone of them went into the PT films already knowing the plot, all the twists and turns were no mystery. Those who grew up with the PT were watching them as they were released and as we grew up, we watched as it all unfolded and the story lined up. And that my friend, I have kept with me into my adult life!"

      I wish you all logged on some kind of account, so it would get easier to follow ones treads.

      But to answer the above post that I quoted.

      The thing that I liked a lot with the OT, was the backstory. We had not seen it, but we learned about along the story. This gave the OT depth. Something grand had happened. We did not know all of it, but just that, gave the OT its grand scale. And we started to visualized how thing played out. And when the PT came, we had the same experience we always have when movies are based on books. We read the book, visualized how it would be, and came out from the movies extremely disappointed. That, poor acting, and other stuff devastated the PT for me.

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    7. I'll restate my previous point:
      I highly doubt that the prequels had as significant of an impact. When episode IV was released, the world was still in the dark as far as real special effects are concerned. Lucas pulled away the veil (so to speak) and showed the film industry that a little really goes a long way and simple camera tricks and pre-planned tactics, even with a smaller budget can make a worl-recognized masterpiece. The new trilogy simply expanded on the story. It was a merchandizing tactic with the purpose of advertising to a new demographic to widen their customer base. Little to no artistic value in that at all.

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    8. A long time ago, in New Jersey.....My father sat me down next to him on the couch and said "Son, today you become a man...." From that moment I have been a hardcore Star Wars fan. I grew up with the OT though it was on VHS rather than in theatre. And when I was in my teens and Episode I came out, there I was in line, anxious. Now I will never forsake the OT. The brilliance of its simplicity and precariousness is and will forever be, masterful. However, as a member of the in-between generation, those of us who know where the phrase "Han shot first" comes from and that the original Death Star battle had only 10 or so starfighter models.....I honestly appreciate the PT for all that it is. Its our back story. It's our history. There are parts I could do without, namely Hayden Christiansen and Jar Jar. Dialogue aside I still believe the story was masterfully told. The force could have remained mysterious and a 10 year old probably wouldve been vaped in a dogfight against droids....but I digress. What I do see is that the gritty special effects of the OT could never have told the Clone Wars story. It was grand and ferocious and tumultuous. It happened before (or as) the galaxy fell into darkness. Episode II showed us the beginning of the end. The Jedi Order at its height and brightest. Episode III gave us the, near tear inducing, execution of Order 66 and fall of Anakin to the Dark Side. I believe, as others above, that we will see a blending of the two trilogies. You NEED the sprawling City-Planets AND the backwater dust rocks. The rural colonies AND the inconceivably massive forests. Its a galaxy. Made of millions of planets. they cant all be one or the other. I want Han to have to kick start the Falcon and for a diplomatic vessel to be sleek and expensive. I want far flung planets with weird aliens and strange customs as much as I want a touch of high society in the core. The sheer depth and breadth of the galaxy is one of the things that makes Star Wars what it is.

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  7. I don't see Abrahms saying anything here about making the new films grittier like the Original Trilogy.

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  8. And then you have those of us like me, who is old enough to know the originals, but hadn't seen them UNTIL after the prequels came out and became fans of both. I love the prequel as much as the originals.... BUT I love the expanded universe just as much, especially anything written by Zahn, Alston, Stackpole, Stover and Luceno. I've read books that covered the Old Republic, the Clone Wars, the Rebellion Era and the New Jedi Order (most of which I read in timeline order--unless it hadn't been published yet when I started reading the books in 2005). I'm not saying I love every book or every series, but I do enjoy most of the books. I'd actually like something that can make all of us happy--fans of the originals, fans of the prequels and fans of the EU, but sadly that is wishing for too much, even from the magic of Disney.

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    1. It would be an impossible task to say the least.
      From a business point of view, it would be vice to make all the camps happy, on paper that is. We`ll all seen how compromises like that have ruin perfectly good movies before. But I think they just have to make a choice. Or come up with something completely different that suits the universe of Star Wars. But I really hope they don't streamline it completely.

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  9. I second that. I am actually of that younger generation (I was 12 when TPM came out) and while I do prefer the OT, I also grew up with the PT and kind of appreciate the saga as a whole. The PT was big, on a grand scale, and the OT on a small and more personal scale. Both have their charms and I hope Abrams can unite those in harmony.

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    1. It's interesting how different we all see the movies. Personally, I see the OT as the movies with the largest scale, and I see the PT trying hard to achieve the same scale.

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    2. I was around 6 or 7 when I watched Star Wars in theaters in 1977. There was alot of it I couldn't understand till was alot older. Visually it was awesome, enjoyed every bit of it. But story wise, not much until I was older. Even Empire was a major brain scrambler. If i was 7 years old when The Phantom menace came out, I would have understood alot more at that age, because the movie was not so complex to understand. It was explained visually. Thats the main difference between the two trilogies.

      I appreciate the OT alot more than the PT because it really explains alot more about the characters and how they think and feel. It's one of those trilogies where you learn more after every viewing. Not so with the PT, you get the whole thing upon first viewing. I hope Abrams understands that. Other wise the movie is going to turn out to be another mind numbing FX extravaganza with little or noting to tell, just to break box office records.

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  10. Now if only JJ can marry the visually grand scale of the PT while keeping the story and characters small & personal...

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    1. I didn't like the visual scale of the prequels. The originals felt, as you say, personal and had authenticity. The scale of the prequels lacked any humanity.

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    2. For once, stop being so fuckin selfish and do not fear in accepting reality! The prequels are bad because that is what most of these "loyal and adult" fans persist upon those films. Their nostalgia rather blinds their likes of their cinematic taste, that they rather focus on the negativity of the prequels rather than focusing on the positivity. If you were as such a Star Wars fans as you (and most of these dildos claim to be), you would not be insulting the Prequels and you would rather be praising the Classics instead of bitching about how "bad" the Prequels were. Leave us, those who see past nostalgia, enjoy these prequels and leave us alone. We quite had enough from your ignorance, and the ignorance of these OT Gushers.

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    3. "Leave us, those who see past nostalgia, enjoy these prequels and leave us alone. We quite had enough from your ignorance, and the ignorance of these OT Gushers." What do you mean 'leave us alone'?? I'm not doing anything to you. You're the one calling ME a dildo! I literally only just put my point of view across. But hey, sorry for having an opinion ... I enjoy the prequels, but I simply said I didn't like the visual scale of them because it lacked any humanity. You clearly like that, and I'm simply saying I do not. How am I being selfish for having an opinion that you disagree with? I would argue that YOU need to stop being selfish, since you attacked me after I simply stated my point of view, and claimed I am being 'fuckin selfish', and then call me a dildo... What did I ever do to you? Nothing. Yet I need to "leave you alone" ..???

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  11. The main thing I can think of is they need a really effective new villain. Vader and the Emperor are dead, so who is the new bad guy/girl? I think they should make the new films even more intense with the new evil darker than ever..'Star Wars into Darkness'..

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    1. I agree. I think this time around the best way to top them is to bring on a small army of Sith, Luke will be passing on what he has learned, have an up and coming Jedi order and a new Sith threat.

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    2. I agree with the above Anon~ In current EU, Luke is already weary from nearly 45 years of ups and downs, as is Leia and Han. With the reappearance of the Sith by way of the One Sith and the Lost Tribe, and with Jaina, Ben and a score of Knights from the New Order I simply find it hard to believe that they wouldn't take a beautiful hand-off and run like hell with the ball. A small note: I do believe in this trilogy we will see the tragic and most likely, heroic end of Luke Skywalker. Just a feeling I have. I think Han and Leia are destined to grow old(er) together and go peacefully but Luke will end in a blaze of glory.

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  12. When are we gonna get some actual real confirmed news?? I'm dying over here.

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    1. Just threaten Disney to not buy their Star Wars merchandise and perhaps they will speak.

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  13. here is the link but i can't read it.

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/magazine/article3906891.ece

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  14. Star wars was not just a western, a part of it I appreciate, but it is melding of genre's. The 4 rules segment was callous and narrow minded. More in the vale of a Michael Moore film. This goes to show how separate fans are. Fans have high expectations and all differ. To have a pre concept fully developed of what a story shall be before one see's it seems only a set up for failure. No news thus far is good news. As far as story and plot go.
    It seems as though thus far too many fans want to weigh more the notion of how this new trilogy compares to OT & PT. Instead of going in open minded and sitting back for a ride. Instead fans want to sit there and expect -who they think should show up from EU or from other trilogies. And damn if JJ Abrams has lens flares! Vs. not enough, or too many. The arguments will be ridiculous I'm sure if Han has to shot anyone. Also Lucas made better films and moved more people than any or all "filmmaker's" that waste time filming Documentries asking...Were the Prequels good enough?

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  15. I wonder if they're also going to have outdated stop motion effects like the OT as well.

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  16. The Villain is the key to a good movie, However I was not impressed by any of the villains in the prequels. Darth Vader was a good villain, In Zahns trilogy which I truly beleive is the "true" 7-9, Grand admiral Thrawn is a good villain. Jorus C'baoth, also a great villain. But count dookie, Darth maul and general droid with human heart are the main reasons i disliked the prequels so much. Palpatine was better when he had less screen presence.
    The new movies need a strong villain that is controlled from the shadows until the final installment when the true master villain is finally introduced to the audience before the hero's prevail.

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    1. I agree Villain is what make Star Wars greatest sci fi of all time. Darth Vader was and IS the best character of all time. I agree with all your ideas. I will aff only more sith lords and female sith. May be her master should be #1 Villain.

      Why not 7-9 so show us SITH WORLD gow they live how looks like etc. Sith king or whoever rules there etc. I want to see our guys on their teritory.

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    2. Who was pulling palpatines strings......

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    3. Darth Maul was a good character... naturally they killed him off

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  17. Quite true, the villain would be very important. Maybe a droid villain this time, IG88 anyone? To be honest I don't mind him being alien or what not but please not again the same evil buddy who's master is the real thing. That will look like the old trilogy too much and I want NEW events, not the same story again. Maybe a threat from outside of the galaxy as someone else said would be great!

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  18. ...And that "Dear J. J. Abrams" screed is Bantha poo doo.

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  19. It not only has to balance the look of the OT with the look of the PT but also get the balance right from the old cast to the new cast......

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  20. I'm easy on all points of what a new trilogy has to bring, but it must be at least 80 percent new, fresh, and if it has to draw on older elements from I-VI, to do something unexpected with them - invert, take them to extremes, etc, but not to safely retread. Han is no longer a smuggler, Leia never became part of the new government and Luke has so far failed to train many - if any - Jedi for whatever reason (maybe he has given up locating Force-sensitives until one pops up in VII). I would be happier seeing the Jedi Order reorganised with different uniforms as simply recreating the Jedi of the prequels isn't recognising the fatal vulnerabilities that saw them nearly wiped out. Same goes for the Sith ... been there, know how they work and how to defeat them. Lots of other Force-users in the galaxy, and also lots of even stranger agencies. But despite all the potential to be weird and wacky, Star Wars works best when it pushes the more esoteric eye-candy into the background and uses it to frame stories focused more on personalities and relationships, to give the illusion the characters are driving the story, not as one-dimensional ciphers for story.

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  21. I'm a middle aged Star Wars fan..saw Ep. 4 more times in a cinema (lost count at 320 times) than I ever saw it on VHS video and DVD...IMHO...when the OT there was nothing like it before, nothing, that's why it had such impact. By the time the PT there had been many films than attempted to emulate the OT (Even '79's ALIEN was in a used universe) so the impact of the PT wasn't as powerful as the OT....which changed cinema forever. All popular media goes in circles, Star Trek went corny then became quite cool again, LOTR was a success as a novel and it took years before they were a success as a film series... and Star Wars is on the rise again. I trust J.J., I trust Disney, they ain't stupid, they're quite sharp when it comes to movie making. The PT have their moments..EP 1 - Best sabre duel in all 6 films / pod-racing, EP. 2 - Genosis battle / Kamino / Fett v's Obi Wan, EP. 3 - Opening starship battle / Grievous is a cool villain / Utapau ...where as Ep. 4 "Ben? Ben Kenobi? Boy am I glad to see you" / TIE Fighters v's Falcon Death Star escape...could've been better ..EP. 5..less time changing things George more time removing matte lines round Tauntauns and Dagobah birds Ep. 6 - Rubber Gamorrean/Quarren hands / Marquand's direction is a bit ropey in places / Vader removes mask...it's an old bald guy? I'm still a fan of all 6...they still make me go WOW!! Even yesterday Ep 3 had something in it I'd never noticed before. And on Thursday a 5 year old ran past clutching a very cool Anakin's fighter in his hands. My point...all 6 films have merits, all 6 films have disappointments...we won't be entirely satisfied with Ep. 7/8/9...but there will be WOW moments....have faith.

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    1. ^ Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you for pointing out the good points of the prequels and faults of the Original trilogy. I don't mean to slap your guys' childhoods across the faces, but the original trilogy was not perfect. Likewise, the prequel trilogy were three enjoyable films.

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    2. "EP 1 - Best sabre duel in all 6 films." HAHA. It's the worst duel. Qui-gon is a character the audience doesn't care about, while darth maul isn't a strong character, just a cool design and halloween constume. If you think it's the best fight, that's just an opinion. The choroeography was way too fast. It lacked any humanity or tension. The duel itself had little significance. Both characters weren't even mentioned after the film. Technically and objectively speaking in terms of emotional impact and significance, it's the worst duel. "pod racing", sure it was ok I guess, but hardly brilliant though, just a fun speedy sequence. It had tension filled moments, but it went on for far too long. "Geonosis battle" what about it? the fact it was mindbogglingly awful..? The audience doesn't care about clones, and doesn't care about droids. So where's the fun and tension in watching them fight? Where's the tension if the the film hasn't set it up so the audience isn't even rooting against the opposition.. "Fett v's Obi Wan" Yeah I liked that fight. EP. 3 - Opening starship battle, yeah I loved that. Great sequence. "Grievous is a cool villain". Only slightly.
      (you decided to ignore all the bad points on the prequels and focus on what you think are the good. Yet you choose to ignore all the good things about the originals and nit-pick what you think are bad??? .. ok then..?)
      "Ben? Ben Kenobi? Boy am I glad to see you". What's bad about that?? "TIE Fighters v's Falcon Death Star escape...could've been better." How? How could have it been better? I think it could have been edited a bit shorter. but what do you mean when you just say 'could have been better'. "less time changing things George more time removing matte lines round Tauntauns and Dagobah birds" I'm not even sure what that means..but whatever. "Rubber Gamorrean/Quarren hands" How does that make the film worse?? You're nitpicking about rubber alien costumes made in the 80's???. "Marquand's direction is a bit ropey in places" Agreed. "Vader removes mask...it's an old bald guy?" .. what do you expect? A young, fully haired, woman?? The originals aren't perfect, and the prquels are far far far from perfect, and you're bringing up really strange and invalid points for the most part haha.

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    3. Technically and objecitvely...in terms of emotional impact...eh? What?? DO you even know the definition of those words?
      David Niven _"Dear boy we gave you a language, please try to use it!"
      You even say you don't understand....
      Whatever...are you 12 year old girl?
      "haha"

      You my friend are a d*ck!

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  22. Prequels' locations are beauty enough, but less exploited - or bad. I mean, you have a planetary city like Coruscant, and you show only two or three skyscrapers, only the parliament or the politics' apartments! Where are the cantinas, the underground streets, the criminal's hideouts? I think prequels were missed opportunities to show the other face of SW galaxy: not the frontier, but the city under-life, the bounty hunters' world...

    In that way, Episodes 1,2,3 could had been most powerful and less kids-friendly...

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    1. What do you mean. Ep II and III didn't show a fair amount of Coruscants world. Jexter Dexters cafe, The opera house in Ep III The seedy bar where Obi Wan cuts off Zam Wessals arm. Padmes apartment. I understand what you mean about showing the under-life of Coruscant but there was a story to be told..

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    2. Anonymous Nov 3 2013 1:30 PM means he wants to see more crime, bloodshed, and misery. Personally, I would like to live in Padme's apartment, hang out at the Coruscant opera house, and visit the jedi temple.

      The guy says the prequels were "missed opportunities" for location shots. BUNK! I'm so glad Lucas decided to show other places, instead of catering to more cantinas, more Millenium Falcoln-type flight hangers, more connections to the OT.

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    3. But there was a story to be told. I GL could have given us more time in these places he would have, but there was a story to be told.

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  23. Yeah, of course I want to the new sequel to be like the original trilogy, but I still liked the prequel (not the second movie ), it touched the hearth of the viewers and it explained how the story beggined, so don't make the new trilogy just like a western, do something sensitive and that the force be with you J.J. Abrams.

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    1. I agree. Prequels are not good like originals, but they have their moments. At least, I think Episode 3 is still a good movie, and I liked the way that Episode 2 introduced some of old things and characters like clone-troopers, star destroyers, Jango and Boba Fett, the Death Star... The problem was the script: the Obi-Wan's quest was interesting and mysteriously enough, but Anakin's love story...

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    2. I agree, Star Wars Episode 2, like all the movies of the prequel, was an introdution to the original trilogy.

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    3. Actually, Anakin's "love story" was one of the most important parts of the entire saga. It was a great contributing factor of Anakin's downfall and reasons for joining the empire. I think people (particularly men) diss love stories just to show that they are "real" men.

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    4. "it touched the hearth of the viewers" HAHA sorry but that genuinely made me laugh out loud, and that's coming from someone who enjoys them.

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  24. Daniel Day Lewis, Saorise Ronan, Liam McIntyre, and Chiwetel Ejiofor would be great for Star Wars. I would also like to see Charles Dance to play a role

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  25. Ya know what I was thinking? I wish it was more grounded again. Everything is so over the top in the prequels from the movements to the acrobatics to even nearly everything. It pulls you out of believing this world could actually exist. SW prequels of course aren't the only movies suffering from this but I believe it's another way they have felt apart from the originals.

    I'm not saying it needs to remove really cool action... it was just nice that we never expected Obi Wan or Luke to jump 20 feet to escape. If they were pinned in a Hallway they were really pinned. Jedi's had super human reflexes and the ability to move things with their mind... Which was rarely used.

    I think you get my point... for the most part is was basically real people in real-ish situation with fairly believable results. The prequels are a bunch of super heroes in crazy situations. Thank God for lightning speed and super jumps!

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    1. ^ Your comment doens't really make sense, man.

      First, didn't Luke jump 20 feet (or more) in that scene in Empire Strikes Back? Didn't he do acrobatics on the diving board in ROTJ? I think that if filmmakers had the ability, they WOULD have made jedi perform superhuman feats (as CG stunt doubles were not perfected back in the 80s.) Afterall, that's how Yoda was able to lift Luke's X Wing fighter out of the swamp (another example of superhuman strengh in the OT.)

      Jedi knights were at their prime during the prequels. We expect them to use the Force to the best of their abilities. And quit dissing the prequels.

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    2. Right, rarely used, fairly believable...besides those Jedi mind tricks from Ben...and those blind force reflexes from Luke...Luke at the beginning of Empire witht the yetti lol..all those objects Vader threw at Luke...Luke jumping out of being frozen from the pit to the ceiling...that lightning coming from the Emperor finger tips..right, nothing over the top in the originals like those crazy prequels huh?

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  26. How is this different from the news earlier this year where VII is supposed to "use more sets, have real droids, and a more authentic look?"

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    1. ..JJ is talking about wanting mystery and "The beauty of that movie was that it was an unfamiliar world, and yet you wanted to see it expand and to see where it went." JJ isn't mentioning anything about real sets or droids or anything.. and that was from Kathleen Kennedy anyway.. what do you want him to say?

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    2. Real sets I think they'll build. But to actually build a "real" robot that requires 3-4 people to operate it, 3-4 people to maintain it, and that you know will take up valuable filming time when it needs adjustments or fixing. When you only need to hire one person can computer animate it at a 3rd the cost and time....and the programs are already designed....no real robots seems more practical! JJ just has to pick and chose here and there because doing real everything in todays market, wont make you any money.

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  27. The prequels didnt suck.
    But our expectations have changed.
    When the Original trilogy was released it grasp our imaginations like nothing before ever had.
    Trouble is by the time the prequels were released humanity was so desensitized from being force fed CGI that our imaginations are not what they were in 1977.
    This being said, we will never see the new trilogy as being as good as the original unless it is released in some sort of virtual format, unlike anything we've seen before, that allows us to experience something that is unimaginable.

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  28. I'm 22 years old, and grew up with the prequel trilogy. I hold the prequels just as dear to my heart as the originals, as I grew up around the time episode 1 was being released and watched the originals on a VHS trilogy pack my parents owned before I went to see Phantom in theaters. I agree that the originals are, in fact, better movies overall, but not by as much as the earlier generation likes to think. I'm not ignorant, I know the originals were earth-shattering films that changed the movie industry forever but if we were to compare both sets of films as if they were released today it might be a different story. I find the prequels to have a much more captivating story/plotline, I feel Anakins struggle and path to the dark side is very unique and is much more interesting than Luke's struggle with Vader. And seeing the age of the Jedi is just awesome, I loved the city of Coruscant, Naboo, the inner part of the galaxy in general. The story of Obi Wan and Anakin, seeing the Clone Wars alluded to by Ben and Luke, Anakins piloting skills accentuated in all 3 movies...so many cool things, and Jar Jar and all the that nonsense that accompanied him could have been left out of course. Of course the problem wasn't the content, it was the execution. Obviously overly used CGI environment, lack of character progression/relationships is some instances (like show us some Anakin-Obi training as a kid, like anything, really!), extremely slow story telling and too much political garb in between. I don't mind the politics, but it should have been cut in half, use the time to make more likeable characters say George? But I'm rambling now, like I said, the originals were great, the sequels were good, I love them both dearly and Star Wars isn't complete without them all. May the force be with you all

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  29. As Star wars fan I've loved all six episodes, first three films had such a elements like revenge, greed, mystery and Empires cruelty, next three films had a beautiful civilizations, political intrigues and amazing attention to detail, but new three films need to be combination of both of these trilogies, this is what makes Star wars so incredible...

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  30. I like to take baths with my rubber duck.

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  31. I look through all of this and as one of the biggest Star Wars fans there is, I would like to give my thoughts on another Trilogy.
    first off I did grow up with the old school Star Wars movies. In fact Star Wars was the first movie I ever saw in my life when I was 7 years old. I was deeply moved by it as a child would be. Of course I watched all 6 movies when they came out and I even dressed up as a sith for this past Halloween. As a true Star Wars fan, I have a collection of just about 50 novels written for Star Wars. I have a question for all of you fans. Wouldn't you like to know the sith who created the "Rule of Two?" Darth Bane to me is the ultimate Star Wars charactor. If someone was a true fan of Star Wars that is the guy they would make a movie about.
    This is my opinion and I am sure someone will tell me where to go but Hollywierd should make aTrilogy with the Darth Bane novels. I have read many novels past the Battle of Yavin and have yet to find a more interesting story. If there is one tell me and I will read it. Chances are I already have read it anyway.

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  32. i grew up with the original trilogy (i like both) but what a discussion about the prequels


    what´s REALLY great about the prequels is the MUSIC by Mr.John Williams, every movie has it´s own theme, Ep. 1: when the droid army attacks naboo castle. Ep 2: Anakain/Padmé Love theme. Ep. 3 the march when Anakin/Darth Vader enters the jeditemple with the clonetroopers.

    Anyone who dislike the prequels that disagree about the music?? the lovetheme from ep.2 is just as good as the ep.4 "Luke looking at the binary sunset" & I can´t wait to hear the score for ep.7

    ps. Has anyone noticed that John Williams has borrowed from himself? ep.1 "the droidarmy attack" has similar elements to the score from Indiana Jones 3 :) nerdtrivia!

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    1. Without a doubt John was the most consistent part. Totally agree the prequel music was great.

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  33. i wonder what SW would look like if Rob Zombie directed one of the stories...?....

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  34. my own opinion: that episodes VII,VIII,IX should show something to the movie audience that is unimaginable, unique, thrilling, suspenseful...like something about to happen, something not yet shown on the movies.. not the feeling like "ive seen it all"..
    Disney, please try to surprise us :).. make a movie, where I want to watch it over and over again...I would appreciate it..

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  35. I think at it's core the biggest problem with the prequels was very simply... the plot and how it was executed. Following a heros fall to the darkside that tipped the balance of power to a very dark place could have been done amazingly well. What we got was a mess of ideas that often times seemed directionless.

    I think that's what hurt the prequels. The originals had goals... and they went after them. The prequel had a destination and only really thought about getting around to it in the 2nd half of the last movie.

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  36. Disney should be releasing episode 10, 13 or even 16 now then come back to do 7,8,9 at a later date

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  37. Y'know, I actually thought that John Williams (whom I admire to an unbelievable degree) punted on a lot of the prequel trilogy scores.

    Not on the big themes. Duel of the Fates, Across the Stars, the recurring theme during Obi Wan and Anakin's big final duel at the end of ROTS.... those were classic Williams. Great stuff!

    But he also repeated himself to an unbelievable degree throughout the prequels. One example: how many times did we hear that same piece of battle music from Episode I? You all know the piece - from when the Queen's ship was running the Naboo blockade and Artoo was fixing the hyperdrive. Nice little piece of music for that scene, but that same recording (not even variations on the theme) was used again and again - during the pod race, during the clone army's arrival on Geonosis, while Grievous' ship was taking its first big nose dive toward Coruscant...

    In the OT, these events would likely have had their own unique incidental music (though the recycling of musical sequences did begin during ROTJ with the skiff battle and the attack on the Executor). But to have one single bit of battle music recycled almost half a dozen times over three movies rather than writing new stuff each time... that's not exactly Williams playing at the top of his game. I found this to be a problem throughout the prequels - bits of music recycled rather than new themes or at least variations on the reused themes.

    There were elements of the prequel soundtracks that were really excellent IMHO, no question about it. But I can't say that overall they were at the level of what Williams did for the original two movies, and for much of ROTJ.

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  38. Jesus these comments are getting violent.

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  39. @ AnonymousNovember 5, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    This is not the fault of Williams, but of Lucas who wanted to backtrack a lot of music from Episode I just because he could (as in, he had the technology available). In the process, he managed to butcher the perfectly good scores that Williams made for EpII and III, which is a dying shame. I hope JJ will let Williams do his thing in the ST, like for example different compositions of the Main theme for each movie as was the case in the OT.

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  40. Viralhide, you gotta make a starwars8news.com and a starwars9news.com so when ep 7 comes out you can't be putting ep 8 news on starwars7news.com

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  41. Anthony Ingruber's status - working on some really great projects at the moment; cant share anything yet at this early stage but expect updates soon! thanks guys for all the support!

    is he doing Han Solo spin off ?? WE CAN ONLY HOPE

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  42. The difference between the OT and the PT is very easy to figure out. All are visually dynamic movies, but in a vacuum, the OT movies were simply better because of one reason.... the characters. The OT characters were well-developed and we cared about them... more than the ones in the PT. It's not something you debate, you simply feel it when you watch the movies. It's not rocket science. The OT makes you feel those chills you get when you watch a GREAT movie (at least the first two). The PT movies were certainly fun and hey, it's Star Wars, but there is no way that they made you feel like you feel watching the original Star Wars or Empire.

    None of the movies are flawless and I'm not even saying that the PT is bad... in fact, I like them for what they are: great popcorn flicks and part of my Star Wars universe. I get that younger people who grew up with the PT are partial to those, but as far as movies go, there are big problems with the characters. It's that simple.

    For Episode VII, I couldn't be an easier person to please.... just make a damn good movie. I don't care what the plot is as long as I am entertained and the characters are intriguing. My gut will tell me if it is good or not. I won't spend hours every day debating on the internet why it was good or not, I'll simple know whether it was good, mediocre or bad by how I feel when I watch it. It doesn't need to be "like the OT". It doesn't need to "distance itself from the PT". It needs to be fresh and character-driven and give me chills when I watch it.

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  43. Random... but I still think Stormtrooper armor is some of the coolest in movie history. Actually a lot of the armor in star wars is just so damn iconic!

    That's it... that's all I came in to say lol.

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