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Haven't we done this before ?....... Let's get to the heart of the power of the force. The most interesting part of Star wars to me is from episode 3 when Sidious talks to Anakin about darth Plagueis The Wise and his ability to create life and prevent death. Did he create Anakin ? Did he really die by the hands of Sidious like he claims saying he killed someone who could prevent death ?......I'm sorry but some of these posts are becoming boring. Let's get back to this topic cause its been a hot topic on other web sites from the last 5 years.
Wow, you're really going to bring up Plagueis in every single post, aren't you?
The Plagueis article is coming tomorrow. Another great piece by Echo-07...
Nathan Chapman, he is not, but I will if you want.
Excellent video, Viral! Thanks for posting it. ;^)It's been a number of years since I dusted off my DVDs and watched Hidden Fortress and Seven Samurai (I need to remedy that soon!), but I would very highly recommend them to any Star Wars fan. Hidden Fortress especially, given the very obvious influence it had over the story and characters in ANH.
I just recently went through Kurosawa's samurai films again (as part of my Ep. VII prep work) and they are amazing. Seven Samurai is simply one of the greatest films of all time. Hidden Fortress is just great for Star Wars fans.
I love this stuff. I also think these films and the old scripts are a good place to look for clues to the Sequels. Hidden Fortress also had (spoilers) a bad guy samurai turning good (ala Darth Vader). This can be seen in the rough draft where Prince Valorum, the black knight of Sith, turns good at the end and helps the heroes escape. "General Vader" is not a Sith in this draft and remains evil (he is the one who tortures Leia). The final Vader is a combination of Valorum, Gen. Vader, and Kane Starkiller (half man, half machine father of Annikin [Luke]). People like to say that Lucas didn't have a clue that Vader was Luke's father until well into writing Empire, but the seeds are right there in the Rough Draft. Once the father is dead in the scripts, Vader becomes half machine. Something similar happened with Leia being Luke's sister - though it is clear that that was not the case until the sometime towards the end of making Empire or beginning of making Jedi. The figure who needed to be rescued from the Death Star in the second draft was Luke's brother, Deak, Leia is Luke's "cousin" (Owen and Beru's daughter), and he has little twin brothers. So the pieces for Leia being Luke's twin sister were floating around from the beginning. Hidden Fortress was also used in EP1 with Qui-Gon and Padme hiding as a peasants and arguing on how to proceed. Lucas's original treatment was much closer to Hidden Fortress and had a bit of Sanjuro (sequel to Yojimbo) in it. So it is possible that there are clues to things that might happen in the sequels in Kurosawa and the old scripts.
In other words, Lucas was nothing but a cheap plagiarist of old samurai films. I mean, its obvious that Hollywood cannot come up with any truly new stories now (by re-making old classics over and over), but it turns out Hollywood has ALWAYS been doing that...
Good artists borrow, great artists steal.
It's analogies, brilliantly executed analogies.
You mean like Shakespeare?
Kurosawa took directly from Ford and Dashiell Hammett among others. Lucas took pieces of what he loved and turned them into something new. Star Wars isn't a carbon copy of Hidden Fortress, it was inspired by it.
"There is nothing new under the sun." - God